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3 May 2022 @ 07h15 - South African Cities Network

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manager interview with catch up now the state of our cities the cities south african network has list its state of cities report did so on friday and it's showing that our population is expected to grow nineteen by to twenty four million people year twenty by the fifty many of those people live will in our cities and towns already course we've of been experiencing rapid urbanisation two more than thirds of us live in urban areas but as we see that rapid urbanisation many many many many people people come centres to urban looking for economic opportunities not and they are able necessarily to find their way super hlatshwayo not is the executive manager for at the programmes south african cities network good morning a very to you thank you for your time today but mining more money to your listeners in money a lot of what was what has emerged in your report is indeed quite alarming what one in five now that's now that's of us twenty percent twenty percent who live in the big cities informal live in housing it's a sad state of affairs is it not it is and are if we going to continue experiencing population growth as it is predicted over time it's that a challenge governments cannot ignore but not just city governments only all of government in fact the delivery because of housing doesn't only the city rest with of joburg city of cape but provincial town governments and national government is as well well and that that also also and brings brings about up the need of water for provision sanitation and other infrastructure to support a sustainable human settlements report really drills in many down ways the granular details around who is suffering in south africa for example let's take the city of johannesburg it's the and i think same for capetown nearly half residents of lived on less than one thousand three hundred rand a month as of twenty sixteen is that situation improving or getting worse aftermath of the the pandemic i'm afraid even want to know what i don't the answer is unfortunately not because as you see more losses which job are not coupled with job creation at least to absorb those people the minimum that have skills and have skills some of them don't we are likely to numbers see those increasing and what then does bongani is that for cities when you have more who are not people employed me pay for water that they a4 can't water right they right there can't pay for currently the red it puts pressure and on municipalities but their livelihoods own then they start depending on the indigent programmes of municipalities use ten further could another burden on municipalities so it is a is something crisis that we all should about not be concerned only government but all of society in trying to adjust the employment challenge it as has got a reply effect social and on the economic lives of people that a very interesting raises question because the lion's share of the budget goes budget goes to national to national and provincial governments and as you point out local government has made to its own generate revenues how can it do so from the indigent that's that's the biggest challenge so you would also know that an appropriation there is of funds that comes government from national so in the report that was launched we raising a very critical question shouldn't to say we then look at how that money is is appropriated appropriated various is still in the spheres of government it the cities are where majority of people are living and that's where you know the tyre hits the tarmac shouldn't then we allocate as address much funding to these challenges by allocating money own is on its not going to resolve the problems you need a capable state is incapable government sixty you need to read that the of any scrambling government that might delay it's people actually receiving the services that that intended for money was so it's a complex issues bag of that need to be addressed one money is of them but we work do need to together all of society and we in addressing this need to make sure that built we've capability in the cities for these challenges to be addressed you talk about all society working of together minutes clear local as you say government can't do this on its own but we've seen disasters and you can take your pick grand really look look at at what what happened happened nelson mandela in in nelson bay metro i'll take another example was it lifted bag where the clover factory to decided relocate from because of the inability that local of municipality to provide it with space where it could a operate a people in the private sector lot of on will say hang will just be throwing more of money after our bad and and then very so true that's why we say capable they're capable it city government is very important they and when capable we meet we mean that condition the for the municipal workers themselves are conducive for them to do their work conditions but the are also allow for investment to be attracted to the city number one to be and also retained in the city now you have a situation if where because of instability political or because there are no services like water and electricity electricity business land business then decide to move decide that creates a disaster in instances where you find already a that there is very high level of of unemployment so it's all of these of the elements is pieces puzzle which you can't look at them separately that needs to be fixed the system to function for as realise a business to that the role a particular that they play in community is not just limited them creating to jobs but it is about livelihoods of people as well do so what do we with this because you are calling a capable for state business can create all jobs that it wants the environment to but if the in which it must do that conducive isn't those jobs will not be forthcoming because one of the things you say even where is that cities half delivering it's a mixed picture right because we might have electricity or access to electricity but then power is intermittent or it's too expensive or you have but electricity you don't have water so a the that few things that thing this report against the highlights first one last year there were elections and their where the most some cities and municipalities are going to go through the process of restructuring we're saying that when municipalities when really need to think carefully impact about the of service delivery because it's about seven years after restructuring as happened for that to to municipality to stabilise race the second that we also highlighted thing the need the need municipal for a for municipal a and leaders political leadership administration stability there when it is absent is then affect service delivery but most importantly we also talk about the role of everyone in the delivery holding those an account to among the instruments that we can utilise i had earlier on are doing their is ipp to participate in those purposes but setas to for open up other channels for as a you residents to upwards participating making in making process as well process is well spur web where no organisations like salga when things like this happen so i'm a specific role and it deals with all municipalities among to others build capacity of the councillors the work to do that they're supposed to do they've done and tremendous work in making those sure that councillors are inducted in their work order to do but then they are also some assisting of the policy around the sun a and the life so as has much as salga done the work as much can say as we cities have done work some of the we still think more we can still do but we do need we do need to hold these structures is accountable what they're supposed to do the to be in terms of constitution because there are established of the constitution in terms sports such i appreciate time executive manager your for programmes at the south african cities network and question i was asking the earlier do maintain any ties your with your rural roots rural roots go do you still to the village maybe a farming you came from community as many many many us of leave the rural areas increasingly no there is emma caia or village to to go back one in five of us big cities in the live in informal settlements and that problem is expected to grow