2022-01-05 09:33:09

5 Jan 2022 @ 09h30 - National Employers Association of South Africa

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cape town or the first time domestic workers will earn the national minimum wage sectoral determinations have traditionally man domestic and farm worker wages have liked well behind the national benchmark the national minimum wage commission has adjusted also the overall some twenty-two for two thousand and worker should earn no less than twenty-three rand and ten cents per hour gerhard fed papenfus who papenfus who out up the heads largest up employers heads association in south africa we speak to him now for his response to this minimum wage increase and he joins us now cut out it seems almost strange that the domestic workers and farm been workers have so behind in being eligible for minimum wage a well well well can understand you know you the historical reason for that the it it's it is the rationale behind that was the ability to pay households on businesses and their ability to pay the minimum was wage was the the reason for the differentiation between the general minimum wage that off the message still the same applies to farmworkers differentiation that was asian was was was last was year sorry for that was taken out life farmworkers an album domestics as well so question is the is has that changed two sides the are of the scoin the one of course is you know a worker a domestic worker deserves an increase and the amount buy you know they it's low it is slow and so so can argue nobody can argue nobody about about their the right that they have to home to get an increase other side the of the coin is the ability to pay at the end of the day a an employer can only pay can buy what he and one we we women know to what extent domestic employers will be able to meet this increased amount won't and if they be able to do do it it then then will lead lead to to that that will to add to unemployment once again issuing there are wealthier employers day pay they don't the minimum wage they pay more they pay genuine but they are those that simply just made it just make it and for them that might be a challenge so love to see we what i mean not there it is yet there is not is still introduced it that's the recommendation and everybody has got until the fourteenth of january to make comments but i think the fact is a that there recommendation is probably a or sign good sign that at least this be wage will will be implemented had out speaker let me somebody be very open i sneakers who can somebody afford a domestic worker and i can afford to pay her way minimum above the wage but surely afford you can't afford service a service a can't than have you than you one because i hear all too often of people who have domestic workers are paying who them absolute patterns and surely that's not fair easa i mean can't afford if they they the minimum wage then get you don't to have a domestic worker well is true that but you know again again other side of the college the what is somebody better that that offers she saw her service and says listen i have absolutely nothing else can i work for you for whatever amount of this let's use harbour that as an example them out and there is an agreement i once i once mentioned an example said i i used the example i have said i a domestic and that domestic at her house employ somebody six hundred for six hundred for rand a month rand and i asked the people is that reasonable no just add this i must before i this before i use scenario i said to them a person is paying six hundred rand a month reasonable and everybody agrees but it's absolutely not and then reasonable i sketch the scenario of a domestic of employing somebody at six her home for hundred rand a month and everybody ja but that's different should them c well that's the problem with this type of that there thing is are different scenarios so if you can't if everybody that cannot afford it don't employ that will just increase the employment figure unemployment and that that will create other problems so what we need in south africa we need is more wealthy people so that more wealthy people can employ more people that what we need to grow is the economy economy create more wealthy people so for that so that can employ they can they employ at better at wages because say i hear what you but you know what ja had outside see it just broken i don't time know much what about implementation who actually that this make sure minimum wage is set because hear i so many times people domestic workers not even been paid because they get bored they get lodging and and meals so going who's actually to oversee this process i it's actually it's actually don't think over she over see i don't think there's enforcement capabilities happens but what when when a a a a worker get dismissed they normally go and lodge claim a for outstanding wages and that's that's when these things come to the surface is no there but there is no inspection i i can't know see it there is no inspection but it's it's it's a very small amount i think it's a small percentage where department the of labour just doesn't have the the the capabilities to ja capacity to do show and no there's there's no so what what happened with that's with with minimum fly wages people up fly under the radar relay just unpaid they can't they do it and question is can the can't you do or you wanted to it now don't that we know don't but they fly under the radar so we've if a person doesn't want to pay wage they normally just don't buy that wage and they fine alternative waves alright so much thank you had out papenfus of the national employers association of south africa will in coming up the show it's the second three well in weeks to wash up on a